MX Vs. ATV Reflex

[eighttwelve]

New article from IGN.

IGN: MX vs. ATV Reflex Preview (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/100/1009246p1.html)

[Motocross83]

Looks good although the rider seems a touch too rigid. From the films Iv'e seen, there also appears to be slightly stronger gravity this time around (which I would welcome) although that could be an illusion.

As weve all said 5 million times before though, I just wish they could get away from all that other nonsense.

Ofcourse the IGN people (who have probably never ridden in their lives) look towards the bonus features, such as the extra vehicles and are ofcourse, obsessed with the freestyle details. Where's from my point of view, FMX is something I'll barely look at over the course of the entire game.

[MXcouchRACER]

Yeah, I've played Unleashed and Untamed... and I don't think that I've ever been on a freestyle course... it is just plain boring for a video game. There's no fun in just pressing buttons and watching the rider do some tricks... the real skill kicks in when the gate drops :)

[eighttwelve]

MX Vs ATV Reflex Video Game, New Features Interview HD | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/new-features-mx-vs-atv/53825?type=wmv)

looking pretty sick actually.

[Squeaky192]

Wow, this looks amazing. It's nice to see him case some stuff and not fly off the bike 30 feet straight up like Untamed.

[459Productions]

Now that actually looks way sick!

[Squeaky192]

Really good gameplay vids of nationals and supercross.

MX vs ATV Reflex Video Game | Reviews, Trailers & Interviews | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/mx-vs-atv-reflex/11319)

[yzaddict106]

this game is starting to look WAY sick. The SX tracks look a little out there, but that national track looks a lot more like a real national track then one cluttered with a million jumps. The only thing I wish they would show us is a gate with more then 12 riders. Surely if they are supporting 12 riders online, the should be able to support more in game right?

[bradracing]

Very excited about this game...it actually looks tough to control so this will be a welcome challenge.


http://www.spike.com/video/mx-vs-atv-reflex/3220793

http://www.spike.com/video/mx-vs-atv-reflex/3220794

http://www.spike.com/video/mx-vs-atv-reflex/3220795

[757]

"Sandwick" actually looks pretty close to southwick. I wonder if the rest of the tracks will be loosely based of the real nattys too.

[Squeaky192]

"Sandwick" actually looks pretty close to southwick. I wonder if the rest of the tracks will be loosely based of the real nattys too.

In that first link Brad posted you can click "Razorback" national. It doesn't look like any nationals I've seen but it looks more like a real track compared to past games. The mud is kinda cool.

[Sheriff]

Rainbow announced that there will be a demo released soon (rumors say it should be out this Wednesday).

Who's downloading it?

[eighttwelve]

if it's out there, i'll definitely download that.

[MXcouchRACER]

Rainbow announced that there will be a demo released soon (rumors say it should be out this Wednesday).

Who's downloading it?


To my knowlege, The Playstation store does its updates on Thurday's, so it should be available for download this Thursday in the PS store. I will be downloading it :-D

[MXcouchRACER]

The official release date for the demo is now 11-12-09.

[Spydee]

I bet that's the US release as well, so we won't get it til a month before the full game is released next March, grrr. Will have to keep an eye out in the Playstation Store nevertheless.

[eighttwelve]

4 new vids
IGN Video: MX vs. ATV Reflex PlayStation 3 Gameplay - Catching some Air (http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14347682/mx-vs-atv-next/videos/mxreflex_gmp_gameplay3_110409.html)

I wish the people playing it weren't so ****ty, lol.

[IGASAURUS]

Yeah they suck ass :lol: Game looks awesome. I wonder how comprehensive their pro rider list will be? And it'd be sick if they had and old-school rider unlock or something. How sweet would that be to race with some of the old greats?

[eighttwelve]

Yeah they suck ass :lol: Game looks awesome. I wonder how comprehensive their pro rider list will be? And it'd be sick if they had and old-school rider unlock or something. How sweet would that be to race with some of the old greats?
I would love to ride as Carmichael back on a 250 Kawi!

[eighttwelve]

unfortunately it looks like this series is going more towards MTX Mototrax type gameplay than Mx Vs ATV Unleashed... hopefully it's got some depth.

[IGASAURUS]

Didn't play that one. Do you mean mainly arcade type play?

[MXcouchRACER]

There are a ton of pro riders that are going to be in this game, you can also make your own replica rider. Some of the riders that I know about: RC4, JS7, RV2, McGrath, the Wharton bros, Han bros, Barcia, Canard, Josh Grant, Allessi bros, along with many more riders... I haven't seen anything on whether or not K-Dub or Reed will be in the game.

[eighttwelve]

Didn't play that one. Do you mean mainly arcade type play?

ya i mean like way less about smoothness of transition and natural look of the riders and more focused on what happens in the 'big' moments. Reminds me more of Untamed than MX Vs AtV in that way also. Hopefully it doesnt turn out to be an issue. I think this guy simply isn't using much of the rider stick, so the rider looks way stiff. With people who get how to use weight distribution adn **** for traction, I think it'll look and feel much better. Here's hoping, i said the same thing for Untamed, and I was way wrong, lol.

[goose]

Still no demo on xbox live :thumbsdown:

[MXcouchRACER]

Demo comes out 11-12-09.

[copsey]

This is a game I'll be getting ASAP. Will gamestop have the demo or is it download only?

[Aus_Rider_22]

This is a game I'll be getting ASAP. Will gamestop have the demo or is it download only?

I am not 100% but I believe it's download only. Most are going away from the hard copy demos these days.

I can't wait to get it.

[MXcouchRACER]

It will be in the PS store available for download on 11-12-09.

[Squeaky192]

With MW2 coming out this game and demo will hardly get noticed.

They should've released this week.

[MXcouchRACER]

With MW2 coming out this game and demo will hardly get noticed.

They should've released this week.

Couldn't have said it better... I don't know what they were thinking when they pushed the demo release date back?

[d dogg]

hate to say it but it looks exactly like untamed. not getting my hopes up for this one

[Aus_Rider_22]

hate to say it but it looks exactly like untamed. not getting my hopes up for this one

IMO the rider reflex and terrain deformation will put it a good distance ahead of untamed (I hope anyway!) but I know what you mean.

I was so disappointed with untamed. They talked it up so much (I realise this is marketing and there job) but alot was said but not implemented into the game and it was only a very slight improvement on unleashed.

I am excited about this new game but also very wary of a big disappointment! :confused:

[bradracing]

I feel the same...but I think with a little bit of time and some creative riding ability it will be a lot of fun.

[Patrick]

I can tell just by looking at the footage that this game will feel nearly identical to the last one, which was a ****pile. I'll give the demo a shot, but my expectations are really low this time.

I wish EA would take an interest in motocross again. The stuff they're doing with the NHL and Skate series is incredible. Those two have revolutionized their genres.

[eighttwelve]

I can tell just by looking at the footage that this game will feel nearly identical to the last one, which was a ****pile. I'll give the demo a shot, but my expectations are really low this time.

I wish EA would take an interest in motocross again. The stuff they're doing with the NHL and Skate series is incredible. Those two have revolutionized their genres.

i agree with skate, but while NHL is great, i think it's pretty much doing the standard ****, just better.

[Patrick]

Show me another hockey game where the stick is independently controlled with its own dedicated joystick. I think it's pretty innovative and it's the same kind of thinking behind Skate. It looks like Rainbow is trying to apply the same thing to Reflex, but I don't think it can work unless the overall feel of riding a motocross bike is perfected first.

They'd be better off if they ported the MX Unleashed physics model to the new game, tweaked it a bit, and then applied the reflex system to it. Their current physics model is garbage.

[Aus_Rider_22]

Show me another hockey game where the stick is independently controlled with its own dedicated joystick. I think it's pretty innovative and it's the same kind of thinking behind Skate. It looks like Rainbow is trying to apply the same thing to Reflex, but I don't think it can work unless the overall feel of riding a motocross bike is perfected first.

They'd be better off if they ported the MX Unleashed physics model to the new game, tweaked it a bit, and then applied the reflex system to it. Their current physics model is garbage.

I see where you're coming from.

The rider still seems very stiff and robotic. The bike seems to skate or "flow" over some terrain and it doesn't look right either. But I guess it's a base to build. You would specialising in MX game Rainbow would have it down better tho!

[Sheriff]

Whips video for the Community! | MX vs ATV (http://community.mxvsatv.com/forums/topic/3641)

It looks smoother an Untamed, that's for sure!
Now let's just hope they put good riders on the bikes to record the sounds... I guess we'll know by tomorrow.

[Patrick]

Looks like ****. I don't even need to play the demo now.

[IGASAURUS]

Looks like ****. I don't even need to play the demo now.

Are you f'ing high? Go back to Excitebike. This looks amazing, compared to what's been offered. There's no game that looks 100% real. Get a grip. :confused:

[Sheriff]

Looks like ****. I don't even need to play the demo now.
Stop whining and go riding your real bike you lucky you! Here the game is all we have until March or April and honestly, the demo is pretty good:thumbsup:

[bradracing]

I really enjoy the game...if you want to see what the track deformation really does...let the ai go for 10 minutes before you do your 3 lap race. They will ride around for however long it takes you to complete 3 laps. It gets rough.

[Sheriff]

I really enjoy the game...if you want to see what the track deformation really does...let the ai go for 10 minutes before you do your 3 lap race. They will ride around for however long it takes you to complete 3 laps. It gets rough.

Good idea, I'll try it. I noticed that the track gets rougher when 450s are on it.

What's your best lap time?

[eighttwelve]

Show me another hockey game where the stick is independently controlled with its own dedicated joystick. I think it's pretty innovative and it's the same kind of thinking behind Skate. It looks like Rainbow is trying to apply the same thing to Reflex, but I don't think it can work unless the overall feel of riding a motocross bike is perfected first.

They'd be better off if they ported the MX Unleashed physics model to the new game, tweaked it a bit, and then applied the reflex system to it. Their current physics model is garbage.
2k has been doing that in their hockey game since like 2k 6-7... But if you play the game, you eventually get the hang of it, and really does work great. not perfect, but WAY better than untamed, which was unplayable to me.

[bradracing]

57.?? on 250f's. I've been doing consistent 1:00's. I like the 250f a lot better than the 450.

[Sheriff]

Damn, I've got some work to do then! I'm still stuck in the 58s, and consistency is a problem. I'd say I do sub-1:00 laps about 80% of the time.

[eighttwelve]

Are you f'ing high? Go back to Excitebike. This looks amazing, compared to what's been offered. There's no game that looks 100% real. Get a grip. :confused:
well, i dunno about you, but being high actually makes this game look REAL. :rockon:

this game rocks my socks off. I'm only doing consistent 102s, but i'm still having a blasty blast.

[Tubesteak Cowboy]

I don't get why everyone's moaning about the controls, i've been playing for 20 minutes and i'm already in consistent 58's. If you have any sort of coordination its really not hard, brahs. That being said i would still rather play unleashed.

[YamahaRacin27]

I don't get why everyone's moaning about the controls, i've been playing for 20 minutes and i'm already in consistent 58's. If you have any sort of coordination its really not hard, brahs. That being said i would still rather play unleashed.

Wow, really? I find Reflex to be twice as much fun as Untamed.

[Aus_Rider_22]

Wow, really? I find Reflex to be twice as much fun as Untamed.

He's talking about unleashed not untamed.

I have unleashed still on my PC with about 35 downloaded user track. It wasn't the best game but with the modded physics packs and awesome replicas and original track designs it still has amazing playability.

[eighttwelve]

yes.
250 cc best time 58.06.
450 cc best time 57.96.

[YamahaRacin27]

He's talking about unleashed not untamed.

I have unleashed still on my PC with about 35 downloaded user track. It wasn't the best game but with the modded physics packs and awesome replicas and original track designs it still has amazing playability.

Ohh yeah, my bad. I read that wrong.

I've done sooo many laps on this demo, it's ridiculous. I'm gonna go ape crap when the game releases.

[sharkmx62]

1:04 is a good lap for me, but I dont own the demo, I have maybe 20 laps put into it.

[O'Brien#12]

What up g's???
Long time no speak, this isn't really the place to post but i have been a busy bunny! However i have made a bit of time for reflex....how good?!! Awesome fun, it's still not a sim but because of the deformation it makes consistant laps harder and means it's a new track everylap!! My question is where is the cheapest for it in the US? I am going to buy it and get it shipped here because the PS3 is region free (for some games and i have read this is ok!) Cheers all!! :D :thumbsup:

[eighttwelve]

i got my best time on any bike on the 250 today at 57.86. I need to stop playing this instead of working...

[Spydee]

PS3 is region free (for some games and i have read this is ok!)

If this is true then i'd possibly be up for ordering a US version as well. Where do you guys usually buy your games online besides Ebay/Amazon?

[goose]

Gamestop is a pretty good choice. For the most part they will have the same price as everyone else but have great customer service. You won't find this game on ebay for cheap until a while after it is released.

[Spydee]

Cheers Dan, total makes it $75 including shipping, which makes it $8 more than the retail price of buying the game here when it's released in Feb... That's if import tax isn't included on top.

Very tempting... Although it's kinda risky as i'm not 100% sure if the PS3 is region free in terms of video games. I know my PS3 won't play NTSC DVD's so i'm a bit skeptical.

[O'Brien#12]

I have googled it and it appears that some games are region free, however others disable the online gameplay unless you buy the country specific game, I am researching it at the mo and i'll let you know when i find out! :D

[d dogg]

the ruts are cool and all, maybe im just retarded, but i can only go fast on this game if i holeshot and dont have to deal with the ruts. once the track breaks down i just cant do it

[eighttwelve]

the ruts are cool and all, maybe im just retarded, but i can only go fast on this game if i holeshot and dont have to deal with the ruts. once the track breaks down i just cant do it
you have to hit the ruts dead on (so slow down) and use the lean to lean into the ruts. (so push the stick in the direction you're turning). It's kind of tough to get used to, buta wesome once you get the hang of it and see yourself hugging rutted inside lines.

[Spydee]

I have googled it and it appears that some games are region free, however others disable the online gameplay unless you buy the country specific game, I am researching it at the mo and i'll let you know when i find out! :D

Nice one Ben! I had a look around myself and saw the same thing, so it's looking good in terms of the US games working on our consoles, but best to be sure! Oh, add me on your PS3 as well :-D - Spydee112

[O'Brien#12]

Hey Grant, I've found this forum and apparently due to the Blu-ray use it is region free....
http://community.mxvsatv.com/forums/topic/3267

The forums are pretty useful as well, i am going to browse see if i can get a confirmation!

[eighttwelve]

Hey Grant, I've found this forum and apparently due to the Blu-ray use it is region free....
http://community.mxvsatv.com/forums/topic/3267

The forums are pretty useful as well, i am going to browse see if i can get a confirmation!
ya, the ps3 is region free because of blu-ray, however, if you want to play online, you might want to hold off for your region. Not sure how that works.

[Spydee]

Hey Grant, I've found this forum and apparently due to the Blu-ray use it is region free....
region free | MX vs ATV (http://community.mxvsatv.com/forums/topic/3267)

The forums are pretty useful as well, i am going to browse see if i can get a confirmation!

Looking good! Do you know if we'd be able to play fellow UK'ers online with our US copy? I couldn't find an answer :no:

[bradracing]

You should be able to play world wide...no matter the version.

[goose]

Finally broke the 1 minute laptime mark. I don't know how you guys are getting low 50s or under 50 second laps but I got 58s on the 250f. Anyone else feel faster and more in control on the 250f compared to the 450?

[O'Brien#12]

No idea there spydee, I have been searching the "questions" Thread in the forum and it says to be confirmed. Well on the positive that isn't a no! I need to know before i spend my hardearned benjamins on it!! :) I bloody well hope it does....Then i am laughing!!! :D

I have managed a 57 on a 250f and a 55 on a 450f on the Xbox but that was after about 4 hours of practice!! :D hahaha i wasted the best part of a day on the demo!

[Spydee]

No idea there spydee, I have been searching the "questions" Thread in the forum and it says to be confirmed. Well on the positive that isn't a no! I need to know before i spend my hardearned benjamins on it!! :) I bloody well hope it does....Then i am laughing!!

Hmmmm decisions, decisions... I suppose at least we know it will work, but if it doesn't work online then that's a bit of a bummer. Or imagine if delivery took 6 weeks, then we'd be gutted, lol!

[KTM CLUB MOTO]

56.31 on 450

[Aus_Rider_22]

I too prefer or seem to be in more control with the 250f which is a bit realistic.

I still have a habit of trying to lean back when I am in a straight line. The reflex is just too sensitive with this and the rough track!

Just bought a 42" Plasma for my outdoor area/brewing/gaming shed. Looking real nice on it! :D

[motocrossguy958]

ive run a 56.81 on a 250 f on the last lap. and 57.01 on 450 on last lap. that was with alot of practice. i love the demo almost more than i like playing the new call of duty. any one else been able to nail the big step up section in one leap on the 450s? i have only been able to do it twice. you have to get the downhill just perfect to do it. you guys should let it run for over an hour then play it. i did it yesterday while i cooked dinner and ate. the lap timer was when i played was 99.99.99. track was ridiculous. i couldnt get better than 1.04 and i could barely make any of the jumps. it was awesome. it was well worth sittin and letting it do its thing. i actually had the pegs drag and slow me down in one of the ruts.

[KTM CLUB MOTO]

I hear ya motocrossguy. I've been playing the demo more than the new Call of Duty. Also, in the freestyle area you dink around in while the track is loading, there is a few sweet supercross sections. Theres one with a step-on triple off (or you can triple double) then you make a left hande bowl turn into a steep double - and after you land that double turn slightly to your left and head to the next supercross section and you hit a double and then go into a left hand bowl turn and then a steep triple. After the triple turn slightly to your right and go back into the other sx section again. I kept doing that little routine over and over again and it's so fun. The berms get DEEP ruts in them, and eventually you can hall grundle through them. Also, I kept scrubbing the faces of the triple and double and they got sweet carved ruts in the faces. It's really fun - I can't wait to try out the real sx tracks.

[O'Brien#12]

ive run a 56.81 on a 250 f on the last lap. and 57.01 on 450 on last lap. that was with alot of practice. i love the demo almost more than i like playing the new call of duty. any one else been able to nail the big step up section in one leap on the 450s? i have only been able to do it twice. you have to get the downhill just perfect to do it. you guys should let it run for over an hour then play it. i did it yesterday while i cooked dinner and ate. the lap timer was when i played was 99.99.99. track was ridiculous. i couldnt get better than 1.04 and i could barely make any of the jumps. it was awesome. it was well worth sittin and letting it do its thing. i actually had the pegs drag and slow me down in one of the ruts.

Is that triple after the triple step down? If you aim on the very left you can do it on a 250f...i can do it nearly every lap on the 450 the bottom of the "valley" gets rough though so it is harder to do it on a 250f on the third lap!!! Try the Very far left line, it is easy to do on a 450 and should shave precious seconds :D

[Sheriff]

I hear ya motocrossguy. I've been playing the demo more than the new Call of Duty. Also, in the freestyle area you dink around in while the track is loading, there is a few sweet supercross sections. Theres one with a step-on triple off (or you can triple double) then you make a left hande bowl turn into a steep double - and after you land that double turn slightly to your left and head to the next supercross section and you hit a double and then go into a left hand bowl turn and then a steep triple. After the triple turn slightly to your right and go back into the other sx section again. I kept doing that little routine over and over again and it's so fun. The berms get DEEP ruts in them, and eventually you can hall grundle through them. Also, I kept scrubbing the faces of the triple and double and they got sweet carved ruts in the faces. It's really fun - I can't wait to try out the real sx tracks.

After the steep double you talk about, I steer to the right, get on the side of the big mound in the center and head right again into the whoops. Then you can hit a sand berm going into a double double section, then right into a set of rollers, another berm, and 2 small tabletops that you can scrub. Then to the right again on the side of the big central mound and on the double again.

Is that triple after the triple step down? If you aim on the very left you can do it on a 250f...i can do it nearly every lap on the 450 the bottom of the "valley" gets rough though so it is harder to do it on a 250f on the third lap!!! Try the Very far left line, it is easy to do on a 450 and should shave precious seconds
Try going up the uphill triple to the far right where the take off is lower. You'll barely make the double even though you have the same speed. Then double out. I find it sets you up better for the next corner.

[Sheriff]

One thing I forgot:

In the double-double section after the sand whoops, anyone going triple-single? I've done it a few times on the 450 (not even close on the 250) but can't hit it consistently. I'm kind of stuck with my lap times and looking for new lines...
55.28 on the 450
56.17 on the 250

[Motocross83]

Does anyone else struggle with whips?

I can do the ronnie renner thing where the bike twists sideways, almost like a scrub. But if try and lean the bike over in sort of regular "Carmichael type" whip I just end up straight over the bars panic reving.

How you guys are doing mid to low 50s I have no idea. My best is a 1:02! This is going to be a good game, I can't go back to Untamed now. The terrain deformation thing is everything I hoped it would be.

[Squeaky192]

You should be able to play world wide...no matter the version.

NTSC vs. PAL

[O'Brien#12]

i was under the impression the difference between NTSC and PAL is the amount of lines used in the screen and so wouldn't work correctly. So with new HD TV's and Blu Ray that is more or less redundant? Especially seeing as it is an Analogue televison coding. WIth digital it no longer really counts......

[d dogg]

not a fan of the game :frown:
i play it all the time hoping to get the hang of it and still not havin fun with it.
id much rather hook up the ps2 and throw down mva unleashed!

[bradracing]

NTSC vs. PAL

Hmm must be that Stop of the Game workmanship that you have all this knowledge. Those acronyms confuse me. :)

[motocrossguy958]

I hear ya motocrossguy. I've been playing the demo more than the new Call of Duty. Also, in the freestyle area you dink around in while the track is loading, there is a few sweet supercross sections. Theres one with a step-on triple off (or you can triple double) then you make a left hande bowl turn into a steep double - and after you land that double turn slightly to your left and head to the next supercross section and you hit a double and then go into a left hand bowl turn and then a steep triple. After the triple turn slightly to your right and go back into the other sx section again. I kept doing that little routine over and over again and it's so fun. The berms get DEEP ruts in them, and eventually you can hall grundle through them. Also, I kept scrubbing the faces of the triple and double and they got sweet carved ruts in the faces. It's really fun - I can't wait to try out the real sx tracks.

when your in the loading sreen try this. hit the step on step off and then when you take the turn and hit the next section try to jump across and land smoothly on the take off for the step on step off section. hard as crap. best ive done is land in face of it

[Motocross83]

not a fan of the game :frown:
i play it all the time hoping to get the hang of it and still not havin fun with it.
id much rather hook up the ps2 and throw down mva unleashed!

Keep trying. (Assuming your all over the place) I had the same trouble but after a couple of hours it really starts to gel. You need to be very suttle with the two lean options. Sometimes you'll just need to lean the bike, sometimes just the rider. It's usually both but mostly only with small quick suttle adjustments. If you get sideways then use the throttle to straighten out. This is a huge help with whips. Then after that it's just about knowing where the AI has torn things up and picking good lines.

[bradracing]

And don't hold back on the reflex stick when riding...the downhill double and uphill triple double especially.

[goose]

I have played many NTSC games in Europe on a PAL Xbox. They Work fine!

[eighttwelve]

And don't hold back on the reflex stick when riding...the downhill double and uphill triple double especially.
ya man ive eaten **** that way too many goddamn times... even without using it it's not quite safe, i always cross rut and swap...

[Aus_Rider_22]

Same here!

I was always leaning back but if you don't land right or get kicked by the bumps or ruts it gets crazy!

[motocrossguy958]

i jus 3 times in a row nailed down tripling the double double after the whoop section on a 250 f.

[Sheriff]

i jus 3 times in a row nailed down tripling the double double after the whoop section on a 250 f.
How did you do that:eek6:

How do you set up for it? I can do it every once in a while on the 450, but I'm not even close on the 250...

[motocrossguy958]

i come through the whoop section on the left side and kinda double triple through them and jump to the right side comin out of them right before take off for double double to aim towards the left almost hittin the tire and holding back on ride stick whole time through whoops to get max speed. kinda hard get hang of but once i got it, it was easy to do. ill try take a video of it and put it up later

[goose]

I can get it pretty consistently on the 250f also. I am always holding the reflex stick back in the straights :embarrassed:

[eighttwelve]

57.39 on a 450, my fastest time. still a bit behind...

[motocrossguy958]

so the real game is sooo much better than the demo! tracks actually require some skill. not just going wide open and hoping for the best. sx is 10 times better the last game. even after playing the demo as much as i did when i played an sx track i was all over the place. deff gonna take some getting used to it.

[YamahaRacin27]

I guess you got it at midnight? I preordered mine on Amazon and I'm tracking it and I think it may be here today.. if not, definitely tomorrow. I'm so stoked.

[sharkmx62]

im at work, just waiting to leave so I can play it. I bought it earlier in the day, poor decision

[Sam137]

I went and got it at Walmart at 12:01 and the lady had that look on her face of "wtf you just made my night shift 10x harder".

[copsey]

I have game in hand, just waiting to go home to try it out.

[cobra314]

I really like the tracks that I have played so far. The SX tracks are pretty tough to get and keep a good rhythm. It's too easy to get enough money to fully upgrade your bikes though. I figured it would be more of a challenge, but after winning a couple of races I had my bike tricked out and new gear.

[stevnso117]

OK guys I've been out of the loop for a bit and didn't even know there was a demo out yet but I had preordered the game and I got it today. After playing it for over 2 hours I must say I absoulty hate the thing. To me it terrible. There is no rythem like in there other games. Ever who said its like MTX Mototrax hit the nail on the head. To me it seems the bike is so much stiffer and it just seems to bounce through certain sections. Also if you happen to get out of rythem or crash you can start out in the section and get your rythem back like you can in the other games and real life. I really gave it a chance and I hate it. That said I like Untamed pretty well but Unleashed is by far my favorite. I was shocked that Rainbow got this far away from their formula. That said I love the track deformation I just wished they had an option to play without the reflex like the old style. I really thought they would of offered a standard play along with the relex style. The bike just doesn't seem to float with the terrian it seems to be on top of it and bouncy/ Anyway I'm glad some of you like it. Hopefully it will grow on me. Just wanted to give my 2 cents.

[cobra314]

OK guys I've been out of the loop for a bit and didn't even know there was a demo out yet but I had preordered the game and I got it today. After playing it for over 2 hours I must say I absoulty hate the thing. To me it terrible. There is no rythem like in there other games. Ever who said its like MTX Mototrax hit the nail on the head. To me it seems the bike is so much stiffer and it just seems to bounce through certain sections. Also if you happen to get out of rythem or crash you can start out in the section and get your rythem back like you can in the other games and real life. I really gave it a chance and I hate it. That said I like Untamed pretty well but Unleashed is by far my favorite. I was shocked that Rainbow got this far away from their formula. That said I love the track deformation I just wished they had an option to play without the reflex like the old style. I really thought they would of offered a standard play along with the relex style. The bike just doesn't seem to float with the terrian it seems to be on top of it and bouncy/ Anyway I'm glad some of you like it. Hopefully it will grow on me. Just wanted to give my 2 cents.



Wow. I'm shocked by that! This is the best MX game EVER! Nothing has even come close to reacting with the terrain like Reflex has. You have to really work at going fast on this. It's not just a 'pin it and go' deal like in past games. If you hit a rut wrong it can slow you down or even kick you off the bike....kind of like in real life. The old games were a joke!

[mxmhero]

I really like it, it's not hold it wide open like the last one. In career mode when you get to certain races you have to pick a different vehicle from the vehicle list. I don't see the list to get or buy the vehicle to be able to complete certain parts of the career. anybody else have that problem?

[copsey]

Go to the first section in the career and hit X on 360. It goes to your garage and let's you buy different bikes and what not.

I'm bummed by the lack of mx/sx tracks so far. Damn if they make an mx game and focus on mx/sx it would be great but they put way too much into the waypoint and rhino bs.

[cobra314]

Go to the first section in the career and hit X on 360. It goes to your garage and let's you buy different bikes and what not.

I'm bummed by the lack of mx/sx tracks so far. Damn if they make an mx game and focus on mx/sx it would be great but they put way too much into the waypoint and rhino bs.


That's what I don't get either. They say that they want to be able to hit a wider audience, but the only people buying this game are the motoheads and couch fags. The trophy truck people are buying their own games.

[bradracing]

I went and got it at Walmart at 12:01 and the lady had that look on her face of "wtf you just made my night shift 10x harder".

I got the same damn look from a guy at Walmart!

[bradracing]

Just did a 30 lap moto at Sandwick with some friends. It took us an hour to complete it, never have I had soo much fun on a moto game.

[stevnso117]

Wow. I'm shocked by that! This is the best MX game EVER! Nothing has even come close to reacting with the terrain like Reflex has. You have to really work at going fast on this. It's not just a 'pin it and go' deal like in past games. If you hit a rut wrong it can slow you down or even kick you off the bike....kind of like in real life. The old games were a joke!

I agree about the terrian changing but it just feels like there's no rythem to the jumps at all. It feels to me more like pin it and go fast to clear them or if you come up short you just bounce over them. Maybe I just need to play it awhile longer but after 2 hours plus of game play I was so frustrated I wanted to bust the controller. I'm going to give it a little more time and maybe I'll get use to it. So far MX Unleashed felt so much more realistic to me over all. Like I said maybe I need to give it a bit more time.

[eighttwelve]

SX is hard as ****, but I really enjoyed the National tracks so far.

[YamahaRacin27]

I still haven't gotten it in the mail. I seriously think I've checked my mail box 10 times since yesterday morning. It was coming from 5 hours away (tracked the package) and it's been 3 days since it was shipped and it's still not here. I'm trying to find crap to do in my dorm to get my mind off of it but it's sooo hard.. I can't stop thinking about it lol. My friend that has it keeps calling me and rubbing it in my face.

[Obarf]

I picked up my copy today. So far I like it a ton but I do have a few gripes. First is the complete lack of acceleration. There are a ton of pretty badass inside lines but once you hit those, your chance of clearing anything out of the corner is pretty slim. That pretty much forces you to take outside lines everywhere to make any sort of time.
Second is that I kind of miss the preload stick action. On previous titles, the preload would almost work as acceleration out of corner so you could clear stuff using inside lines. This simply holding back on the stick just doesnt give you the same feeling.
Other than that, im really digging the game. It definitely has a feel that no other mx game even come close too. Thats my 2 cents. I give it a solid 8.5/10

[Motocross83]

For you guys that have it, how many SX and MX tracks are there in total?

[sharkmx62]

6 mx and 6 sx I believe

[stevnso117]

I picked up my copy today. So far I like it a ton but I do have a few gripes. First is the complete lack of acceleration. There are a ton of pretty badass inside lines but once you hit those, your chance of clearing anything out of the corner is pretty slim. That pretty much forces you to take outside lines everywhere to make any sort of time.
Second is that I kind of miss the preload stick action. On previous titles, the preload would almost work as acceleration out of corner so you could clear stuff using inside lines. This simply holding back on the stick just doesnt give you the same feeling.
Other than that, im really digging the game. It definitely has a feel that no other mx game even come close too. Thats my 2 cents. I give it a solid 8.5/10


You hit the nail on the head bro. Thats the problem I have with it. It has no acceleration at all. I've notice several people saying that its not just pin and go fast but especially on the SX tracks if you don't just pin it and go you can't clear ****. Before with the preload if you messed up on a section you could use your preload to get back in the groove. SX was my favorite part and now it sucks with the new Physics. It nuts.

I haven't even checked to see how many tracks there was but if they only put 6 mx and 6 sx thats stupid. Why so few? Sounds like now we'll finally get downloadable tracks which is cool but they should at least put the same amount of tracks as they normally would not fewer and make us pay extra for them.

[goose]

I hate all of the races at the end of each series (waypoint, buggy, ect.) but other than that I love the game. I was thinking we should do a RonRon ride day or a series or something. If you wanted to get really fancy you could have different teams or something. Idk just an idea. Add me on XBL its n4tralb0rnki11a. I will be on probably around 10pm est if anyone wants to play

[Motocross83]

6 mx and 6 sx I believe

Thanks very much.

Sounds like a pitiful amount, here's hoping we get some downloadable's in the future.

[bradracing]

it's 8 and 8. but yes I too hope we get some downloadable tracks, which is what i've heard we are getting.

[Party Boy]

Is it worth buying right now? Or should I just wait? 60 bucks is a lot of money to be spending on a game that is just going to frustrate me until I have over 10 hours logged into it. I dont have that kind of attention span. But, honestly, in your guys opinion, is it worth it?

[motocrossguy958]

you need to have the accel on the setting almost all way up and speed down. it helps alot. and for you guys that have it. i can say im happy we are 6th on leaderboards for fastest lap on razorback!! mxer92 gamertag

[goose]

raced with bradracing earlier......definitely a bad choice to be on a 125 against 450s it doesn't help either that Brad has some skills haha

[motocrossguy958]

i can tell you that i heard from some people i know that work with thq and helped develop the game that there ARE tracks coming for download but they couldnt tell me when or what kinds.

[motocrossguy958]

if any one wants to race tomorrow i will be on tomorrow around 11 am

[goose]

I added you on Live 958

[stevnso117]

Is it worth buying right now? Or should I just wait? 60 bucks is a lot of money to be spending on a game that is just going to frustrate me until I have over 10 hours logged into it. I dont have that kind of attention span. But, honestly, in your guys opinion, is it worth it?

If you like the other rainbow mx games at all then I would say no because the learning curve is high. I've played about 6 hours and I still freakin hate it. Some of the guys on here were saying its not just pin it but to me thats all it is. You sure can start out out of a turn or is you mess up and get in a good line you just bounce all over the place. I just got through playing several sx tracks and I wasn't sure if I was suppose to be on a dirt bike or a damn pogo stick. The only track I've even enjoyed at all is sandwick. The games was made to work good with the track deformation but it makes the technical tracks suck bad and those were the ones I loved. Of course now we are finally going to get downloable tracks and I hate the freakin game. If its not just pin it and go fast then I wish someone could tell me how to make the jumps on a sx track with out having you speed up? Thats not realistic at all. The SX Pros can start in the middle of a section and get back into a rythm. Heck you can case the biggest triple and just bounce right off of it. Most of the time the stupid green arrow doesn't even come up. I hate to keep complaining but it just frustrates me at how bad I hate it. I was hoping I'd get the feel of it. I guess I'll be going back to MX Unleashed on PC. I wish someone that really understood MX / SX would make a really good MX only game with real life tracks. It always kills me to here the developers say that real life tracks isn't what people like to play on a game. Anyone that has been apart of the MCM or MXU community on line knows that real tracks get 10 to 1 downloads over fake ones. Give the people what they like!!!

[goose]

I totally disagree. If you use the brake coming into the corner and use both sticks to corner you can really rail. I find that if I hit a corner like I would in real life that usually it reacts just like in real life. Although i do agree most of the time if you mess up in a rhythm section you are thrown off for the whole section but overall I think it is a good game

[motocrossguy958]

I added you on Live 958

k. if your on right now and playing, your playing with my brothers. theres 4 of us that use the one gamer tag. whats your gamer tag so i know to look out for you

[motocrossguy958]

If you like the other rainbow mx games at all then I would say no because the learning curve is high. I've played about 6 hours and I still freakin hate it. Some of the guys on here were saying its not just pin it but to me thats all it is. You sure can start out out of a turn or is you mess up and get in a good line you just bounce all over the place. I just got through playing several sx tracks and I wasn't sure if I was suppose to be on a dirt bike or a damn pogo stick. The only track I've even enjoyed at all is sandwick. The games was made to work good with the track deformation but it makes the technical tracks suck bad and those were the ones I loved. Of course now we are finally going to get downloable tracks and I hate the freakin game. If its not just pin it and go fast then I wish someone could tell me how to make the jumps on a sx track with out having you speed up? Thats not realistic at all. The SX Pros can start in the middle of a section and get back into a rythm. Heck you can case the biggest triple and just bounce right off of it. Most of the time the stupid green arrow doesn't even come up. I hate to keep complaining but it just frustrates me at how bad I hate it. I was hoping I'd get the feel of it. I guess I'll be going back to MX Unleashed on PC. I wish someone that really understood MX / SX would make a really good MX only game with real life tracks. It always kills me to here the developers say that real life tracks isn't what people like to play on a game. Anyone that has been apart of the MCM or MXU community on line knows that real tracks get 10 to 1 downloads over fake ones. Give the people what they like!!!

in this game to go fast you have to really keep your rhythm. i can tell that when you get your speed up and hit the jumps you go more out than up. when you hit them slow its like your on a pogo stick. i know its frustrating when you get slightly outta whack and start bouncing everywhere in the sx but thats just part of it. once you get the the tracks down and learn the lines its really smooth and flows well. i think this game is about as realistic as its gonna get. i see this game getting polished out and the little bugs they have with the reflex system and the terrain deformation being tuned up for the next one. but i think this game is so much better than the last one and well worth the buy

[bradracing]

swedishfish247....and goose thanks for the kind words, but I got my ass kicked by Triton and several others. I'm a lot better at the nationals than I am at supercross and when I race nationals I like to ride a 125 :).

Sliders pretty close to the middle on everything...if i'm on a 125 I have my acceleration all the way up.

[goose]

Hey 958 I am n4tralb0rnki11a on live. I was playing tonight and actually ran into yzaddict106 that posts on here. Pretty funny stuff. I have been using the 125 online a lot and it is pretty fun. Been getting a lot of top 5s with it once I got the hang of it

[eighttwelve]

are the sliders online only? I can't find them in the single player.

[Motocross83]

Like the demo track, does the terrain deformation thing really make a noticable difference on all the tracks?

[motocrossguy958]

Like the demo track, does the terrain deformation thing really make a noticable difference on all the tracks?

yes it does. and when you do about 15 on the outdoor tracks or certain indoors it really makes a big difference. kingston 1 when it gets good and rough is hard as crap to nail down the sections

[copsey]

Like the demo track, does the terrain deformation thing really make a noticable difference on all the tracks?

Yep

[bradracing]

Certain tracks take longer to rut up than others...like Prairie Valley I think, it's a super hard pack track and it takes a few laps to even get some lines going. It's soo much fun! 30 laps at sandwick on 125's was amazing.

[rushtoolman]

I asked for it for Xmas. I can't wait. You guys should add me. Same name as on here (xbox live).

[goose]

Brad are you going to be on tonight?

[YamahaRacin27]

Finally got it in the mail! My XBL gamertag is 'Poppa Burgundee'. Feel free to add me, I'm sure I'll be on it a lotttt, and I need some friends with the game.

[copsey]

Can you change the number of laps you run during the races? How about running practice laps?

[bradracing]

I'll be on tonight around 7pm central time :).

[yzaddict106]

Yeah Goose, last night was fun. I was getting my ass kicked. I had the girlfriend going a million miles an hour in the backround talking about school and couldnt concentrate haha. I'll be on tomorrow night for a little bit. Everyone add me

yzaddict106 on psn or xbox

[bradracing]

yeah yzaddict add me as well. I missed it last night ended up driving back to school and had a party party...ha. I'll be on tonight!

[YamahaRacin27]

Can you change the number of laps you run during the races? How about running practice laps?

Do you mean change the laps while the race is in progress? If so, no. At least I haven't seen anything like that..never thought about doing that. There's not a 'practice' format, which I thought was kind of weird.. you just run a race and put the number of opponents at zero. I was wanting to free ride at a track earlier, but none of the tracks were in the Free Ride option.. maybe it will be available after I beat the game? I haven't done all the MotoCareer stuff so I'm hoping I'm not entirely sure what all this game allows.

[mxmhero]

Do you mean change the laps while the race is in progress? If so, no. At least I haven't seen anything like that..never thought about doing that. There's not a 'practice' format, which I thought was kind of weird.. you just run a race and put the number of opponents at zero. I was wanting to free ride at a track earlier, but none of the tracks were in the Free Ride option.. maybe it will be available after I beat the game? I haven't done all the MotoCareer stuff so I'm hoping I'm not entirely sure what all this game allows.


If you go play in arcade mode, once you select the track you hit X, It's lets you chose Number of opponets and laps.

[motocrossguy958]

hey guys, all who added the other gamer tag i posted, add this one now too. MXER958 my fiance ( the coolest ever) gave me an early present of the modern warefare edition xbox! plus reflex! so i now have my own gamer tag

[stevnso117]

Has anyone seen any reviews for Reflex? I'm curious what the critics are saying about it. I thought it was weird because it wasn't even mentioned in the last Game Informer.

[bradracing]

hey guys, all who added the other gamer tag i posted, add this one now too. MXER958 my fiance ( the coolest ever) gave me an early present of the modern warefare edition xbox! plus reflex! so i now have my own gamer tag

You gotta marry her on the spot after that one!!!!!!!!

[bradracing]

Has anyone seen any reviews for Reflex? I'm curious what the critics are saying about it. I thought it was weird because it wasn't even mentioned in the last Game Informer.

There are some 9.5/10, but the majority averages around 9/10. IGN had it at 8.?/10. So everyone seems to enjoy the game.

[motocrossguy958]

You gotta marry her on the spot after that one!!!!!!!!

The wedding is actually set for later next year. Round middle September.Lol I'll b on later playing reflex if u guys wanna race. I'll add u guys

[cobra314]

You gotta marry her on the spot after that one!!!!!!!!


Why? Then she will stop giving blowjobs! I'll take blowjobs over an XBox any day! I won't get in trouble if I go out on my own and buy an XBox.

[bradracing]

Why? Then she will stop giving blowjobs! I'll take blowjobs over an XBox any day! I won't get in trouble if I go out on my own and buy an XBox.

l forgot about that...:-/

[motocrossguy958]

well she'd kill me for this next comment but, well all i have say is TMJ. had the surgery for it when she was 9 or 10 i think

[d dogg]

im technologically challenged...
when i join a race online we sit in the damn practice area for hours on end before a race starts. i sit on there and wait and wait and wait.... anyway to avoid this?

[motocrossguy958]

yea. dont do ranked matches. get some friends and do a private match. then you can setup laps and everything.

[cobra314]

well she'd kill me for this next comment but, well all i have say is TMJ. had the surgery for it when she was 9 or 10 i think


Mine too. I got an Xbox instead.

[motocrossguy958]

Mine too. I got an Xbox instead.

kinda sucks but hey, everything else is GRRRREAT:dthumbsup:

[YamahaRacin27]

If you go play in arcade mode, once you select the track you hit X, It's lets you chose Number of opponets and laps.

Yeah I knew that; I thought he was talking about after the race had started.

[mxmhero]

Yeah I knew that; I thought he was talking about after the race had started.


sorry chief, i misread it.

[YamahaRacin27]

sorry chief, i misread it.

No problem brohansley

[bradracing]

Getting on tonight in about an hour? Everyone needs to join!!

[eighttwelve]

Do you guys know if you can unlock the other riders in the game?


Btw, you can do front flips like those (Page?) brothers do them.

[YamahaRacin27]

Do you guys know if you can unlock the other riders in the game?


Btw, you can do front flips like those (Page?) brothers do them.

No and no. I've beaten the game and you only have a choice of Stewart, McGrath, Villopoto, Grant, and Carmichael. Kinda dumb if you ask me.

And I've been trying front flips a lot. You just push forward and h it the brake, and It's really easy to get upside down, but then the rider just stops spinning. I guess if the jump was HUGE, you might could pull it off. Otherwise, it ain't gonna happen.

[bradracing]

Man I thought the vital message board was bad, but sheesh spend 1 minute over a the mxvsatv forum and it makes vital look like a court room discussion.

Oh and anyone who knows hendrixx41 tell him he's a jackass.

[eighttwelve]

No and no. I've beaten the game and you only have a choice of Stewart, McGrath, Villopoto, Grant, and Carmichael. Kinda dumb if you ask me.

And I've been trying front flips a lot. You just push forward and h it the brake, and It's really easy to get upside down, but then the rider just stops spinning. I guess if the jump was HUGE, you might could pull it off. Otherwise, it ain't gonna happen.

no, i do it all the time. It's actually pretty easy, you just have to get a little sideways. but sucks about the riders, why the **** bothering to make them? plus all those custom bike graphics we don't get to use? wtf?

[d dogg]

downloadable tracks guna be a for sure thing?

[YamahaRacin27]

no, i do it all the time. It's actually pretty easy, you just have to get a little sideways. but sucks about the riders, why the **** bothering to make them? plus all those custom bike graphics we don't get to use? wtf?

Oh yeah, i didn't think about getting a little sideways. I actually started trying it a little more after I read your post and was getting closer but never landed one. And yeah, I'm hoping there's going to be DLC for everything, not just tracks.

downloadable tracks guna be a for sure thing?

I hear they're definitely going to happen, just not for at least a few months. But I heard that from somebody that heard that from somebody that probably heard that from somebody lol.

[bradracing]

I hear the dlc will be sweet.

[YamahaRacin27]

Ok, is there any way to change the clutch for a 2nd player? Me and my brother were playing and couldn't figure out a way to change the button map for Player 2 controls, and it's very annoying...

[tyranasorusJess]

I have a question concerning the game. Is there still the preload function as found in Unleashed and Untamed? Im curious as to how the "rider reflex" function changes the aspect of old school video game preloading. My copy of Reflex is currently in the mail, the anticipation is killing me!

[757]

Theres really no preload so to speak in this game, its kinda more just lean back off the lip to jump further.

[cobra314]

I have a question concerning the game. Is there still the preload function as found in Unleashed and Untamed? Im curious as to how the "rider reflex" function changes the aspect of old school video game preloading. My copy of Reflex is currently in the mail, the anticipation is killing me!


No preload. This game is much more realistic. There is no more just pinning it, hit preload, and jump an entire section. It's all about timing and hitting everything just right.

[eighttwelve]

ya, the preload in this works much more like seat bouncing.

[tyranasorusJess]

No preload. This game is much more realistic. There is no more just pinning it, hit preload, and jump an entire section. It's all about timing and hitting everything just right.

exactly what i wanted to hear! lookin forward to getting it and racing all you knuckleheads.

[KTM229]

race me. jebisGOAT

[tyranasorusJess]

so i got my copy today (still waiting on my xbox live card to arive)
HOW THE HELL DO YOU GUYS RIDE SMOOTH? --jesus, i try to hard to keep her smooth, and it seems every tiny jump i take my rider styles it out and throws a tiny whip.. this is cool for the most part, but sometimes it'll spell certain death. also, whats your whip technique? i'd say i get a good whip 1 time out of every 15 i try. a lot of times i end up upside down and spinning like a helicopter praying to get wheel side down again. doubleyou tee eff. otherwise, great game.. i guess i just really suck at it! :shrug: haha

[bradracing]

It takes some time playing the game to get smooth. Try do the nationals at the beginning. To whip just use the reflex and roll the stick in an upwards motion in the direction you want to whip and use the left stick and push it to the same direction. Let go of both sticks and give the throttle some blips and it should come around.

[Squeaky192]

Only use the Reflex stick on jump faces and tight corners is what I've found.

[bradracing]

Yeppers.

[sharkmx62]

Only use the Reflex stick on jump faces and tight corners is what I've found.
Ive found if I tap the rider stick it helps instead of just holding it. I lean back a lot with the rider also

Hey Cody, front flip broseph
YouTube- MX vs ATV Reflex Freestyle Run